Nie jesteś zalogowany.
It is with a heavy heart that we have decided to retire our beloved Forum Detroit. It has served the Polonia Detroit for over 10 years, and was a source of joy for many. However, after many months of inactivity, the time has come to bid it farewell.
Deepest and warmest thanks to all those who contributed to Forum discussions over the years, either by sharing their thoughts or reading those of others. Your presence and participation served as a building block of this online polish community.
yes, i am cetainly happy to be interviewed. for those of you interested in meeting some of the movers and shakers of the farmers market, i invite you to the Farmers Market Benefit and Deep-Fry, tonight, 6.21.12 from 5-9pm at Skipper's Bar, 9735 Conant:
This Thursday, Skipper of Skipper's Hamtown Bar and Hillary Cherry of Open Kitchen are hosting a deep-fry party to benefit the Hamtramck Farmers Market.
Beginning at 5 p.m., we will serve deep-fried vegetables from the market, including garlic scapes, pea pods, and kale, and there will also be a tray stocked with a wide variety of pickled Michigan fruits and vegetables if you prefer a lighter snack.
The Hamtramck Farm Market is preparing to apply for 501C3 status and needs $400 for the application fee. Please put $5 (or more) in the jar at the door to help with this expense. The market will receive 100% of the proceeds.
There is a facebbok event set up if you'd like to learn more.
Karenka, can you please, post mailing address, to where "good citizens" could send their checks?
Togedher with Mrs. Z., we like to donate 100 "amerykańskich grajcarów"* aka 10 "cegiełek"**, for the good cause.
We are not sure if we can make to the Skipper's tonight, but definitely like to support a very good idea.
Current black market exchange:
* 1 "amerykanski grajcar" = 1$
** 1 "cegiełka" = $10
ha ha. hi,zoomboy. i am finding out. i hope alicja or someone from tp will be able to come because they will be able to get the scoop on the market from folks who are far more involved in its operation and planning than i am. i just take the heat! but in this case i'm happy to.
The check can be made out to Hamtramck Farmers Market and mailed to:
Hamtramck Farmers Market
c/o Zina Lumelsky
Hamtramck, MI, 48212
oh dear, is that a Russian name? albo koszer chyba?
and did i read somewhere in one of these posts that jr noted that i had not attended some community meeting about this so-called "issue"? to set the record straight, i was never informed of nor invited to any meeting.
Karenka, Jurek jest jak nadajnik bez odbiorników. Gdyby był sprtyny to by swój program mógł utrzymać ze sprzedaży "fertilizer" na farmers market.
Pasuje jak ulał
@ VIS wz.12
Nie sadze, ze coś mogłoby "wzejść" z tego
No, może chwasty.
Just to update, neither the city council nor my office has received any letter of protest, nor did anyone attend last night's council meeting to bring up this non-issue. Shop the market today.
Perhaps our "warriors" toned down under overwhelmingly positive opinion about F's. M. ?
Perhaps our "warriors" are too busy fighting Communism, looking for "truth" of the Smolensk crash and organizing an international commission to prove the earth is really flat.
Karenka, any news about the Farmer's Market?
Czy FM nadal istnieje? Może przerwa była spowodowana wysoką temperaturą?
jestem za a nawet przeciw
Mariusz, Karen Majewski JEST (prawdopodobnie ostatnią) POLSKA MAJOR w Hamtramck i nic w tym "rzekomego" nie ma.
Jeśli byś zglebił temat dokładniej to dowiedziałbyś się, że pozycja "majora" jest bardziej tytularna niż ustawodawcza. "City Council" decyduje o wszystkich sprawach dotyczących miasta. To tak jakbyś mial pretensje, że nie każdy gej jest pederastą (zapożyczone z miejscowego radia )
Szczerze, co chciałeś osiągnąć poprzez ten idiotyczny tekst?
Chciałeś się pokazać jako "tuff guy"?
Przed kim, przed Polonią czy swoim "buddy"?
Weź na wstrzymanie, wyjrzyj poza drzwi szafy i "smell the cofee", Hamtramck nie jest Wyandatt a ex-papieżowi to absolutnie nie przeszkadza.
Przede wszystkim "redaktor" Szajnert posluguje sie slowami typu "rzekomo" (cyt. "rzekomo burmistrz ktory reprezentuje Polonie zgadza sie na balagan") ktore w mediach swiadcza o braku rzetelnosci i braku sumiennosci, podawaniu niezgodnych z rzeczywistoscia faktow. Dodajac slowo takie jak "rzekomo" mozna bowiem puscic w eter cokolwiek sie komukolwiek podoba.Jest to kompletny brak wiedzy i duza plama na etyce dziennikarskiej. Na miejscu niektorych zaprowadzilabym domoroslych redaktorow do sadu. Sa tacy, ktorzy wyprobowali i wzbogacili swoje konto o dosc pokazne sumki.
Skąd prezes Szajnert sobie ubzdurał, że burmistrz "reprezentuje Polonię"? Jako burmistrz p. Majewski reprezentuje tylko mieszkańców miasta, nikogo innego. Ale nie ma co się dziwić. Prezes Szajnert również wierzy, że Kongres Polonii Amerykańskiej reprezentuje jedynie zwolenników PiS-u i o. Rydzyka. Jak widać, bałagan istnieje w mózgu prezesa. Takich liderów ma Polonia.
Just caught this--I have very little time to follow the forum these days, and I never listen to PR. Have to say my cat was enthralled by the recording. Yes, the farmer's market is still going on. The city has not received any complaints that I know of. And some people continue to smile to my face and throw stones when my back is turned. Politics as usual, and not just in Polonia...
But I did meet with a group of UM grad students in the Arts of Citizenship program's Public Humanities Institute, who spent a whole day hearing about Hamtramck and working on a short list of city issues. One of the issues I presented to them was the Pope Park/Farmers Market question, and they came up with some very good suggestions (none of which included moving the farmer's market). I'd like to bring together a group of the vendors and organizers along with those opposed to the market to discuss the situation (which the vendors aren't even aware of, I'd venture to guess). But I can't be the one to run this discussion--my time is overbooked as it is. If those with concerns about the market would like to talk in a public forum, though, I can put something together, perhaps mediated by the Human Relations Commission.
Since I don't listen to PR, I don't hear first-hand the accusations and inflammatory language. But I was told that one accusation is that I haven't returned phone calls. Let me say here publicly that since an initial call from MS (on behalf of KPA) way back when the market opened, I have received not a single phone call or email from MS or JR about the issue. Not one. So I guess it's true I haven't answered any phone calls--for the simple reason that I haven't received any.
To clear up a few mistaken impressions I've heard out there--the statue in Pope Park wasn't created to commemorate JPII's 1987 visit to Hamtramck. It dates from before that visit, and also doesn't mark the site of his speech, which was in the area of what is now the shopping center at Holbrook and Jos. Campau. There is a miniature monument there, just across the street from what used to be Pod Orlem restaurant.
Do not worry Karenka, I do listen (and record ) and will post relewant clips soon.
Musze przesłuchać po-paradowe nagrania, było tam coś nieprzyjemnego o Major Hamtramck.
Znamiennym jest fakt, ze ktoś kto kreuje się na rzetelnego polonijnego dziennikarza bazuje swoje komentarze na plotkach, pomówieniach i domysłach.
Jeszcze nigdy nie pofatygował się do wyjaśnienia kontrowersji dając szanse OBU STRONOM na przedstawienie swojego punktu widzenia.
Pewnie przespał ten "topik" na "dziennikarskim uniwersytecie"
Here you go, Karenka
To jest tak głupie, że prawie bolesne. Oto ktoś kto przedstawia się jako dziennikarz, napiętnuje publicznie majora miasta na podstawie plotek, bo ktoś zapytał, miasto nie odpowiedziało na listy, parada nie była wystarczająco Polska, święte miejsce pod pomnikiem zostalo zbrukane przez "infideli", itd, itp.
Czy ktokolwiek słyszał jakiś wywiad z właścicielami Stan's Grocery, lub przedstawicielami miasta Hamtramck?
Czy to jest "responsible jurnalism"?
Czy nie jest to jawna próba skłócenia obywateli miasta z rożnych grup etnicznych pomiędzy soba i zarządem miasta?
Regarding Stan's: We've had a long-standing issue with Stan's (as the owners well know) because every year they sell beer and alcohol to festival-goers, who then drink it on the festival grounds. Not only is this illegal (only alcohol bought from official festival booths can be consumed on the grounds--this is a legal and insurance issue), but it means that the festival's main means of making money--beer and alcohol sales--is undermined by store owners who undercut the official booth prices. We have this issue with Stan's, and a few others whose businesses fall within festival grounds, every year. This year the festival organizers (a group of volunteers, not the city itself) decided to solve part of the problem by making it harder for Stan's customers to carry liquor illegally into the festival. That seemed to work quite well, and Stan's still did a roaring business, as far as I could tell, with their food booth. I checked with them several times over the course of the 3 days, and they never complained to me. One time I did intervene with the security company near Stan's to let a few older ladies past the barrier. Otherwise, any Stan's customer simply had to walk across the street to get into the festival from the other side of Jos. Campau, where they, like everyone else entering the festival, passed the security personnel. I hope that next year we'll figure out a cost-effective way to solve the same problem with the other businesses, but it's more complicated because they aren't at the entrances of the festival grounds, but right in the middle. At any rate, if the festival does not make enough money (which comes primarily from the festival beer/alcohol booths) to cover its cost, there will be no festival. So the businesses who sell alcohol to festival goers may see this as a great opportunity for them, but in the process they are shooting the chicken that lays the golden egg.
I'd also remind everyone that the Hamtramck Labor Day Festival has NEVER BEEN a Polish Festival, but always city-wide. Only Monday has been designated "Polish Day" with the Polish Day Parade. The parade is also organized entirely by another group of volunteers, the Polish Day Parade Committee under Judge John Chmura of Warren.
As for the rest of it, well, who is the real provocateur? As I've said before, the city has received not one single letter regarding this issue. Not one. And so far, the godless ones selling their goods at the farmer's market have been some young (if I may say this) Caucasian families in their 20s and 30s with their children. SHAME on Jurek. And SHAME on his colleagues who know the truth and yet let these lies continue.